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Poster: wineland Date: Aug 23, 2007 8:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

William - It was not directed at you. It was my rant on Rhino. They could not have mismanaged a portfolio any worse than, dare I say it, chucked the entire vault in the dumpster. My bro and I downloaded four of the Live Digital Releases (3.17.68, 4.17.69, 1.18.70, 2.4.70). I thought they sounded great.

The Tapers Section is released every Monday by David Lemieux, one of the Vault Archivists. Each week features tasty cuts from "this week in history". They used to be downloadable in mp3 format, but recently changed to streaming only. Check it out. Some incredible selections:
http://www.dead.net/features/tapers-section

By no means did I intend any ill will towards yourself. I was just p!ssed that yet another outlet was yanked from us. It's their intellectual property, so they can do what they want with it. But if it doesn't burn me up I don't know what does. We are band of pranksters, most all of us accustomed to seeing laws as greyish, not black and white. What's next the bittorrents?

Well then, I guess it will be back the good old days of trading by mail. No skin off my back. I loved the days of anticipating a new show to appear in my mail box. In fact, I got home last night to find four incredible SBD's from 74 sent by Arbuthnot. Tell me that didn't make my day. BTW, thanks Arb!!!

As for Rhino, "It's a shame those boys couldn't be more copasetic."

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 23, 2007 9:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

Oh--I figured it wasn't at me; just making sure (paranoid?!)...crap, I should have been keeping up with current events! Though I have those early shows you listed, would've loved to hear them and see if they were better, etc.

Damn.

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Poster: wineland Date: Aug 23, 2007 10:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

William - I have a question for you. Send me an email.

This post was modified by wineland on 2007-08-23 17:20:14

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 23, 2007 10:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

Done.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 23, 2007 9:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

"What's next the bittorrents?"

i was kinda wondering about the BT sites - could Rhino actually do anything to/about them???? i'm not totally in understanding how that whole thing works (legally/intellectual prop/ etc), even though i do download from them

that would REALLY suck!!!!

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Poster: wineland Date: Aug 23, 2007 10:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

I suppose the Dead and Rhino could stop the bittorrents. Every band has a policy that needs to be followed. Administrators from the bittorrents regulate them. Even the users will let one another know that a show can't be uploaded.

But imagine the backlash from the fans. We talked boycot before when the SBDs were taken from the Archive. Many stuck to it. To be honest, I have only bought the latest Vault 3 release, although I have gone to see their tours.

Times change and we will too. The Archive family, not to mention our brothers and sisters over at DeadHook, must surely have 99% of what is available out there. As the big man assured us "We will get by / We will survive"

BTW: I just love to listen to the audience react to Touch of Grey in the coma comeback show:
http://www.archive.org/details/gd86-12-15.nakcm101-dwonk.25263.sbeok.flacf

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 23, 2007 10:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

why did i know that was going to be your/the answer to that?

but you are right, the combined forces of "us" and our DHers pretty much must have it all :)

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Poster: wineland Date: Aug 23, 2007 10:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

For example, here's Ratdogs policy:
http://www.ratdog.org/policies.php

Maybe it is my Scottish blood, but I can pretty damned stubborn. There are many avenues to get quality shows. I would rather have a good feeling about Rhino than an us against them mentality.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 23, 2007 10:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

i should hold off on my bad feeling/intuition too

positive thinking....positive thinking!!!

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Poster: wineland Date: Aug 23, 2007 10:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

Exactly, must get back to positive thinking. Just got my hackles riled. I had all of the Tapers Sections on my PC, but deleted them for work stuff not two weeks ago. Was going to grab them again on my other pc. C'est la vie.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 23, 2007 10:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

ouch!! that blows


i never even grabbed ANY - what a dumbass :)

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Poster: wineland Date: Aug 23, 2007 11:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

I'm sure someone here did. I think Wharf or Arb might have. Can't remember who was on the grok that night. I must have had a couple too many 12 oz grok lites.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 23, 2007 11:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

prob our buddy Arb knowing him :)


12 oz grok lites - lol that's mint!!!

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Poster: wineland Date: Aug 23, 2007 11:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

Wanna open a brewery with me? I think we have our signature beer... Grok Lite, as well as GrokeWeizen & Grok Stout.

In all seriousness, when my hops bloom in the next couple weeks, I'll use them to make Grok IPA. Actually, Grokster IPA sounds a little better.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 23, 2007 11:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

way cool man :)

if you do labeling too, you are going to have to post a pic on here of your finished product!!!!

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Poster: wineland Date: Aug 23, 2007 11:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

Oh yeah, naming and labeling is half the fun. Done over a couple of cold ones of course.

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Poster: huntr Date: Aug 23, 2007 10:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

they will never be able to stop torrenting ..

if microsoft cant get people to stop torrenting cracked versions of their OS..

GDP/Rhino aint gonna be able to do dick about torrenting shows

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Poster: wineland Date: Aug 23, 2007 10:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

I would have to agree with you. There are always ways and means. No doubt about it.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 23, 2007 10:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

you just may have a point there huntr!!



(and what the heck was up with that post by DH1 over at Hook asking not to even mention "this" site over there anymore - i thought that was pretty damned odd)

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 23, 2007 11:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

well then tell them not to mention their site over here then! I feel like how people in high school supposedly are ( I was too stoned to play those games when I went to HS )

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 23, 2007 11:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

that was the EXACT feeling i got when reading his post!! i didnt get it at all - seemed a bit immature imho

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 23, 2007 12:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

further confirmation that I care even less about their touchy feely social club over there. No offense to you or anyone else who digs it.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 23, 2007 12:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

no offense taken whatsoever :)

needless to say, i cant be my normal "loveable" self over there - lol

still more fun posting here with you losers ;)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 23, 2007 12:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

That's just what we need over here! Instead of 'song of the month' or whatever, we should have a 'loser of the day' (we have so many we would need to do it more often so folks would all be offended more efficiently in a timely fashion).

Any nominees?

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 23, 2007 12:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

Guess I'm running uncontested as "sad fucker of the month".

Welcome home you guys - it's so good to have you back!

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 23, 2007 12:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

lol

i'm not quite so sure it is such an uncontested race my brother

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 23, 2007 12:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

When someone (hint) starts a club or an award program I think it generally accepted that they get first crack at it...

But, Rob's got a great idea--we can have "Loser of the day" and "Sadfucker of the Week" as well...

I was thinking I would get the nod for Loser since if you haven't noticed over at DH (we can talk about over there over here, right? Is anyone but huntr watching?) I joined FIRST so I am the real loser that deserted this ship first. [recall when Ian and I both said we were pissed off and not going to play anymore? Way back in Nov, 06? That's when I joined...though I never posted til I saw your hairy hide over there]

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 23, 2007 1:06pm
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my sincerest apologies Mr. Tell. I by no means intended to jump in front and accidently step on your Loser toes. I shall humbly step aside and genuflect before your Loserness. But my day shall come!!!

;)

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 23, 2007 1:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

Old Brit joke:

"I say, old man, you farted in front of my wife!"

"I'm sorry, old man - I didn't realise it waa her turn!"

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 23, 2007 1:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

good one - lol

almost apropos as well ;)

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Aug 23, 2007 6:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

the end is near...

the sandwich sign I wear confirms it.

Sundazed best!

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Poster: mcglone Date: Aug 23, 2007 6:45pm
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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 23, 2007 12:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

can i nominate myself?

:)

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Poster: huntr Date: Aug 23, 2007 12:33pm
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you just did

8P

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Poster: sel2ims Date: Aug 23, 2007 12:39pm
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I'll second it, and nominate dire for class presidaent '08 at dh.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 23, 2007 3:49pm
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Excellent idea Tell!

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Poster: cousinkix1953 Date: Aug 24, 2007 6:48am
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Are you still waiting for those slackers to release the 1972 Sunshine Daydream video? I just downloaded my copy of Zane Kesey's remastered version from our favorite BT site. I got tired of waiting for these new assholes and Rhino is showing us that they're just like any other frigging record company...

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 24, 2007 8:10am
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To be fair, the Dead didn't release it for over 30 years did they? Not to mention David Lemeiux ( sp? ) mentioned that there was plenty more of the 74 Winterland Dead movie out takes he wanted to release. Who held that up? There's more pro shot vid out there I know

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Poster: high flow Date: Aug 24, 2007 9:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rhino - 3 Days and counting...

How about....

Sadfuckers of the Century....Baltimore Orioles!

Sadfuckers of the Week....NAACP for defending Vick.

Loser of the Day....Direwolf0701...who's vigorous campaigning cannot be ignored. Dude! You won! And lost...

Loser of the Moment.....Me(Flow-me) for not thanking AshesRising for the super-cool-package-of-love he sent. Ashes, I got it yesterday! Thanks so much man!

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 24, 2007 9:52am
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Yeah Ashes! Me too. Super cool indeed. I'm pretty sure I thanked you privately but if not then I am definately an A-Hole. Thanks man!

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 24, 2007 9:58am
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somehow reading a post written by you with the words:

super-cool-package-of-love

is extremely disturbing ;)

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Poster: high flow Date: Aug 24, 2007 10:03am
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oh, you are just jealous.....:)

Yours is super-cool too...

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 23, 2007 12:21pm
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asshole

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 23, 2007 12:24pm
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takes one to know one

nyah nyah

:-P

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 23, 2007 12:26pm
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looking at you looking at me . . .

oh shit, that's getting way too warm and fuzzy feeling (frantic but failed effort to find cutesy emoticon irks me no end)

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Aug 23, 2007 1:30pm
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I've said it before and I'll say it again - All my friends are assholes!!!

Hey, Rather be an asshole than a whole ass.

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Poster: huntr Date: Aug 23, 2007 11:00am
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I dunno ...



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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 23, 2007 11:39am
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Yeah, huntr & Dire--I responded to DH about the notion that we shouldn't bring 'problems' to DH, or at least that's what I thought he was talking about, but the more I thought I about it, I didn't really get it...

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 23, 2007 11:51am
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i read it like three times - all i could come up with was "huh???" made zero sense the way it was written - maybe he was blazing when the thought came to him

but whatever - its his site and i'll respect it :)

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Poster: high flow Date: Aug 23, 2007 11:53am
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I think the concern was that folks may trash LMA/GD forum on DH and that may keep LMA folks from joining DH.

And, that is hard to argue against.....I think there are a few here who have not joined for whatever reason.....but I get that comparing this site to that one may rub some people the wrong way.